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Terry Z
Cast Iron
- Joined
- Aug 10, 2012
- Location
- Gurnee ILL. USA
- Apr 2, 2013
- #1
Has anyone had to calibrate the tool eye on your Matrix lathe? Have a two spindle machine that needs adjustment and looking for any help before I dive into this.
Thanks
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Neslob660
Aluminum
- Joined
- Jan 12, 2012
- Location
- St Louis, MO, USA
- Apr 2, 2013
- #2
Hi Terry, We have a QTN250MSY with the Matrix control. I actually had to replace the tooleye sensor, then calibrate the new one. First off, are you needing to calibrate because of a crash? If so, do all four buttons of the tooleye work properly (other than being out of calibration) with good repeatability? If not, then you'll need to replace it first, otherwise there are a few steps you'll need to take. Starting with X axis: Teach a turning tool in X (inside sensor button). Then turn a piece of barstock to a nice even number (1.000, 1.250, etc.). Measure the diameter to determine how far off it is. Then look up parameter BA97 (X axis sensor position) and write it down. You'll need to adjust this number +/- to bring it in. Keep in mind that the X axis value is diametrical and Z is not. It is not nescesary to power down for this parameter change to be active so once you change it then re-teach your tool and cut it again and remeasure. Repat the process until you have it right. I usually have it in 3-4 tries. Once you are able to teach a tool and have it accurate within a couple tenths, the you'll need to teach a boring bar in X (outer sensor button). Predrill your barstock for your boring bar, the bore it to a nice round number and measure it. Look up parameter BA95 (X axis sensor width) and write it down. Note that this value is not diametrical, it is the actual with between the sensor buttons. Adjust as needed until your bar is accurate. Z axis works pretty much the same except Z is not diametrical.
The parameters are as follows:
BA95 is X Axis Width (Linear)
BA96 is Z Axis Width (Linear)
BA97 is X Axis Position (Diametrical)
BA99 is Z Axis Position (Linear)
I hope this helps.
Brian
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Terry Z
Cast Iron
- Apr 3, 2013
- #3
Brian,
Thanks for the help. Exactly what I needed.One was a crash another the tool eye arm motor failed. So removal and replacement she is off a bit.
litlerob
Hot Rolled
- Joined
- Jun 19, 2009
- Location
- PDX, OR
- Apr 3, 2013
- #4
Thanks to both of you, I was just going to post a new thread on this, but for a Nexus control, are the parameter numbers the same?
Thanks, Robert
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Neslob660
Aluminum
- Joined
- Jan 12, 2012
- Location
- St Louis, MO, USA
- Apr 3, 2013
- #5
Nexus is actually the newer generation of Mazaks. The control will either be Fusion or Matrix. The parameters I listed are for Matrix. The parameters for the Fusion control (and T32 control) are:
B61 is X Axis Width (Linear)
B62 is Z Axis Width (Linear)
B63 is X Axis Position (Diametrical)
B64 is Z Axis Position (Linear)
The entire process is otherwise the same.
Brian
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Mikiemo
Plastic
- Joined
- Dec 8, 2007
- Location
- OFallon, Missouri, USA
- Apr 5, 2013
- #6
Typically if it's just an adjustment to the tooleye, only the x and z axis mounting positions need to be adjusted since the actual physical width of the tooleye didn't change. If it is a "new" sensor, then all four must be calibrated. I actually don't attempt to calibrate the tooleye to be exact. I have setup many lathes and generally setup the od tools about .010" oversize, and id about .010" undersize. There are lots of 1 offs in our shop, and I find it easier to keep operators from scrapping parts if the tool cuts big on the od, and small on the id on the first pc.
toolsteel
Titanium
- Joined
- Nov 9, 2012
- Location
- NW Wisconsin (BFE)
- Apr 5, 2013
- #7
Personal preference....but I calibrate it dead on. Otherwise you end up with one operator changing the wear offset and another changing the Geometry offset. .....Kinda reminds me of a girlfriend I had....she would set her alarm clock ahead so that when she hit the snooze button 3 or 4 times she would still be on time for work. She got pissed when I told her all she needed to do was just set the clock correctly then have the alarm go off a half hour earlier....the only difference would be that she would not have to do the math in her head to figure out what time it was.....she could look at the clock.....which is what it was made for.....just saying man....eventually the operators figure out it is always off .010 and they adjust their setups accordingly.
racen857
Hot Rolled
- Joined
- May 22, 2012
- Location
- pennsylviana, usa
- Apr 5, 2013
- #8
Make sure before you calabrate the tool eye that is in the arm square. The mazak eyes have a square bottom and 2 flats put a indicator on the flats and make sure that they are straight.
Cole2534
Diamond
- Joined
- Sep 10, 2010
- Location
- Oklahoma City, OK
- Yesterday at 7:42 PM
- #9
What are you guys using for a Z axis ref plane? Dialing in a new tol eye and it seems kind of like a personal or machine specific preference.
2" off the chuck face?
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CNC Hacker
Cast Iron
- Joined
- Oct 28, 2013
- Location
- Hartford, CT
- Today at 1:03 AM
- #10
So the standard for a new machine is 4" or 100mm off the chuck face as the reference point. You can set it anywhere you like really, although if you have multiple machines it makes sense to keep them consistent. On machines with collet chucks I'll often set it to the face of the collet so that my Z offset is equal to my stock stickout to make things easy.
The Z reference point is set by parameter S23-Z for Matrix and Smooth control machines, I don't remember if it's the same on older controls.
Cole2534
Diamond
- Joined
- Sep 10, 2010
- Location
- Oklahoma City, OK
- Today at 6:22 AM
- #11
4" is perfect, I'll run with that.
Thank you.
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